As illustrated in the chart, .357 SIG rounds - on average - achieve a velocity [Buy .357 SIG Ammo]. Now I have finished the Hi-Point carbine in .45 Auto review and the new Ruger ARX defensive ammunition I thought [] The .45 and 10mm are both large frame guns which puts a damper on CC. The .44 Magnum can stretch that a bit more, with the ideal range being 50 to 100 yardsonly a marginal increase over .357 and .45 Colt. When he changes things up to compare the most commonly-used bullet weight for each cartridge, you can really see the difference. This round is hard to find and very expensive compared to the 9mm, and the 40 S & W. The .357 Magnum cartridges were made to be used by the police department as they needed a better terminal performing handgun load in the 1930s. If powerful means stopping power both cartridges are excellent stoppers. Discussion Starter #1 Jul 13, 2012. The 357 Sig on the other hand is the same size and weight as 9mm handguns but offers performance approaching the 10mm. Ballistic test .45 Auto pistol vs carbine. Thoughts about Sig 357 vs 45 ACP? But the fact remains that the 357 was issued when the 45 was not. air force texans are reaching out there too, in .357 mostly, but .45 is a really popular caliber. The 44 Mags wider case accordingly seats a broader and heavier bullet two factors that contribute heavily to the greater damage it can inflict. 357 Magnum vs 44 Magnum: History. [Buy Medium: Clear Ballistics Synthetic Gel. 9mm vs. 40 S&W vs. 357 Sig vs. 45 Auto vs 10mm Liberty Ammunition Short Barrel Ballistics Gel Test .41 Magnum 10 Inch Thompson Contender 210gr Underwood JHP Sig Sauer 60gr 223 HP Review with 16 and 18 AR 15s You can get that with the .44special with a 185-200 gr bullet as an upper mid-level load. I enjoy the Marlin 336 30/30 but like the 357 Magnum more. A few years ago I published the differences in 9mm Luger ammunition performance when fired from a pistol and carbine. [Click Here to Shop .45 Auto ACP Ammo]. It is a more capable field cartridge when dealing with animals and is most certainly more capable than 45ACP. But, no, .45 Colt is not normally commercially loaded to a power level that approximates .357 Magnum. .45 Colt is a great round and can be loaded up to kill most any bear. The .357 and .45 Colt are best at bowhunting distances inside 50 yards. The most complete 45 Colt ammuntion ballistics. The sig has an average speed of 1379 fps if you round speed of all know ammo. .45 ACP Ballistic Gelatin Tests. There is a reason why almost all police carried 357's over 45 revolvers. Originally, .357 Sig was developed as a law enforcement round in a joint effort between Sig Sauer and Federal. The normal power of the .45 Colt cartridge is about the same as that of the .45 ACP. (the latter a vented revolver barrel). The fact remains that the 357 is more powerful than 45ACP. 10mm Auto Results. It was a tack driver. Ballistics Comparison .357 is usually considered inadequate for the larger browns, etc. Depends on a lot of factors. The 44 Mags case is nearly the same length as the 357 Mags, but its greater diameter gives it approximately 45 percent more capacity for propellant. A while ago I inquired at the effectiveness of a 357 as a carry gun for black bear because I currently own a Ruger GP 100 and a Rossi lever action in that caliber. Size of platform is one reason, of course. I own both, carry both. Because the .357 Magnum is loaded with more powder, the velocity is significantly more. Because it has an extended case, which means more propellant behind the bullet, the .357 Magnum in general has higher muzzle velocity . Although there is a small camp that claims the smaller diameter .357 penetrates better (very small). You can read that article by following this link. The .357 Magnum is a powerful cartridge, but in this case it takes a narrow 2nd place to the 10mm Auto. I would think a .257 or .303/.308 would best suit what you describe. XTP at 850 fps: +6.1" at 50 yards, +/-0 at 100 yards, -20.0" at 150 yards, -55" at 200 yards; These ballistics apply to a 5" barrel in .45 ACP (typical for a Model 1911 pistol) and 4" barrels in 9mm and .357 Mag. With the .357 Magnum, every load exited the block, so the average was actually 16+ inches. The .45-70 is commonly thought of as a long-range round. As with .40 S&W, some of the .45 ACP loads became clogged up in the heavy clothing and showed severe .45 ACP (Auto) Ballistic Test Results. In fact I now tend to prefer 357 over 9mm when I carry my double stack Sigs. They basically shortened a 10mm case and necked it down to take a 9mm diameter bullet. .357 Sig.357 Mag.40 S&W; 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle.45 Super Results in fps.45 Super and .450 SMC (Short Magnum Cartridge) are two relatively recent variations on the classic .45 ACP cartridge. If I had a 45 colt, it would see nothing but Goex! 9mm vs. .40 .vs .45: The Definitive Article On Caliber Performance . .38 Special Results. The 357 magnum has much more energy, and average fps than even the mighty .45 Auto, it also has the added benefit of it's pistols being larger and heavier thus providing more recoil absorption. 10mm vs. 357 Mag Muzzle Energy. The difference is the length of the cartridge; the .357 Magnum is longer to prevent any incorrect loading into the .38 Special rated chambers. If you can wait, and want to drop some money, then a .452 from american air arms would 2 - 4.2 inch 45 colt Redhawk, have the confidence that you can punch a hole through an elk, and accept that 40 SW: JHP: 180: 400: 1000: 40 SW: JHP: 155: 455: 1150 (The .45 ACP was designed to replace the .45 Colt, at the same power level.) The 357 Magnum generally eclipses the 38+P loads by nearly double in terms of muzzle energy. As you can see from these paper ballistics comparisons, the 357 Magnum with a host of standard loads is considerably more powerful on paper than the 38 Special, even with a selection of +P loads. The .357 Magnum is also used in carbines that are better served for hunting purposes. 10mm Auto vs. 357 Magnum The test subjects: The Glock 29 Gen 4 in 10mm and the Smith & Wesson Model 27 with 3.77 and 4.0 inch barrels respectively. The .357 Magnum gets its name from the diameter of the bullet used and it is the exact same as the .38 Special. 357 Magnum vs. 9mm Velocity The speed of the bullet will have a major impact on performance, including terminal ballistics, expansion, and penetration, as well as shot trajectory. A full house .357 in a 4" barrel can be pretty punishing both on the hands and the hearing. .45 ACP Results. Caliber showdown between the 40, 357 sig, [] 45 colt has never in it's history been the most powerful handgun. Jan 24, 2007. As for expansion, the .357 Magnum averaged 1.6 times the unfired bullet diameter or 0.584-inch. You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. 1 - 4.2 inch GP100 357 magnum, and accept that there may be some limitations with the speed of reloading, and the terminal ballistics in larger bears. The problem is that a .45 Colt cartridge may find itself in an old, weak pistol. 236 Posts . You would ordinarily favor the .357 Magnum load over the .38 Special in a use case that required, faster shooting, more penetration; better terminal ballistics or further accurate shooting. Furthermore, the .357 Magnum has the capability of being used very effectively out of a lever gun for hunting and general shooting. .45 ACP, 230 gr. 158 grains in the 357 conjured up an average velocity of 1363 fps and 651 foot-pounds of energy, while 240 grains in the 44 gave him 1270 fps and 859 foot-pounds. The variety of .357 Mag rounds allows the shooter to match his ammunition well with the task at hand. So, the cartridge was developed by Elmer Keith, Phil Sharpe, along with Smith and Wesson, by performing changes on the .38 that was used back then. The 357 Sig isn't going anywhere, it is many times more popular than the GAP which Glock still continues to offer and will likely do so for years to come. Any farther, and you encounter massive drops in energy and substantial bullet drop. Compare all 45 Colt ammunition manufacturers on one easy chart. .357 SIG vs .45 Auto ACP Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart [Click Here to Shop .357 SIG Ammo]. The idea was to recreate the ballistics of the 125-grain .357 magnum in a semi-auto cartridge. What I really want though is a Marlin 1894 pre-cross bolt 44 Magnum to match my 357. That said, the classic load of 250 grain bullet and 40 grain blackpowder produces just over 900 fps from a handgun. This indicates what we already knew: The 44 magnum is much more powerful than the 357 magnum. The .357 Magnum today is a favorite of handgun connoisseurs with its rich history, home defense with its excellent terminal ballistics, and hunters as well. lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. 45 ACP still gets the nod on the 1911 front. I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 in Sig 357 and still kinda kick myself for trading it off. Jan 24, 2012 (Edited) I have never shot a 45 long colt cartridge , Have shot alot of 357 in my GP 100 . Even with similar The bigger the bear, the bigger the bullet required and hotter too. 10mm generally packs higher muzzle energies thanks in large part to the larger bullets. a .357 Mag Ruger Blackhawk, and a .45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk. A heavy .357 will generally run a 180gr bullet up to about 1100 fps or so out of a 4" barrel. The 45/70 hand loaded for a Ruger #1 is one mean rifle, so is the Marlin 45/70 just don't expect it to run a hot load your Ruer likes. Two seperate shops have recomended a 45 Colt over a 357 Mag to me for a hunting/shooting gun. What you mean by powerful for example. The .357 Sig is a very fast round much faster than the 380, 9mm, 40, 10mm,45 ACP, and even the large 357 Cartridge. It's greatest assets are also its weaknesses, with size comes a lower capacity penalty of sorts. .357 Magnum Results. If ballistics by the inch is any standard, that puts it ballpark 1050-1100 fps from a rifle.